PIT MAGAZINE
ISSUE #55 -- Summer 2006
CARL MCCOY INTERVIEW
BY MICHA KITE
Carl McCoy is more of an elusive enigma than a man. Rarely has he ever
granted interviews preferring to let the music do the talking and let the
listeners resolve their own conjectures about everything from the lyrics to
the artwork. There was a dark period when the devoted was in doubt of ever
seeing an apposite FIELDS OF THE NEPHILIM release again (for some, ZOON
didn't cut it), but truly MORNING SUN is omnisciently reflective of a dark
timbre. I've been privilege to talk with many a musician and artist but
getting a chance to delve into the mind of Carl's mysticism was a devout
honor.
KITE: The vast army of changelings laid waiting for what seemed forever
frothing at the mouth with suspense. Just as one was about to lose oneself
in hopelessness, there came a sign.
MCCOY: After the ZOON album which was in 1996 I had started a
couple of projects that weren't happening and I had a couple of problems
with record companies releasing stuff without my knowledge and it kind of
slowed the whole process up really. I spent quite a few years not being
able to release anything because problems had been caused for me by them.
Mourning Sun was actually only born about two years ago and that's when I
started the concept of writing and recording so for me it's not that long for
the record to be complete. I guess what is meant to be is what is meant to
be.
KITE: A mighty gap unhinged the horizon and many fell into the
mire of the netherworld. For without a fire there would be no will to forge.
Somehow, the watchers found their way home to pastures where angels
reside.
MCCOY: We had made an album called ELIZIUM a few years ago and after that I
kind of broke down the band and decided I wanted an answer back to ELIZIUM
which had different band members involved and the music was a bit more
extreme -- I felt at the time anyway. So I decide to put ZOON under a
different name so the old audience didn't feel they were being tricked into
believing it was the old, typical FIELDS OF THE NEPHILIM sound. In
retrospect it does fit into the whole scheme of things but at the time it
didn't seem that way. It was out of fairness to the audience so that I could
point out that the ZOON album was a bit different, but now it fits totally.
I just think it's one of those things but it's all NEPHILIM to me.
KITE: Though the clouds enshrouded everything keeping all wings
unlit, the raucous thunder of their plight arose in a hauntingly familiar
way shaking the terrain and breaking the shackles that constrained the lost
souls.
MCCOY: I've always been composing anyway but I don't have any
members from the past. The bass parts aren't played by Tony but a friend of
mine who's been around and who I've known for years. There's a few people
honestly that I know who have similar backgrounds, flavors and tastes and
it's obviously an important part of the sound of the NEPHILIM. I suppose
you're referring more to the kind of "Straight to The Light" sound that's
kind of reminiscent of "Psychonaut" and I kind of found some of the tracks
from the past we never took further and I found that a bit disappointing
really so obviously I wanted to pick those things back up. That's part of
the concept of THE NEPHILIM and I think that's part of the whole picture of
it and it's not down to individuals. I think that's kind of how I picture
the whole sound anyway.
KITE: For 10,000 moments the great beast writhed in the works of TYPE O
NEGATIVE, MOONSPELL, TIAMAT, LACUNA COIL (as well as countless others) as
all were heavily worshiping at the feet of FOTN (MOONSPELL even blatantly
sampled the spoken work from Alister Crowley). But even as these false idols
cast their shadows across Nod there was no sign of Leviathan's return.
MCCOY: I kind of follow me own nose, I mean I'm aware of what goes on out
there but it's nothing I would drastically strive for. I think with THE
NEPHILIM and the concept of the band there are a lot of light and dark areas
out there and we should use them because there are a lot of emotions to play
around with. The influence of ZOON was in me more than anything.
KITE: Still, the changelings viewed these demigods as simple liasons
from the womb of the musical goat. They were viewed as false tears, but soon
there was going to be an eruption. A painting of volcanic soundscapes. A
gnashing of teeth -- a rebirth.
MCCOY: It's always different and I don't have a format. It's
always a chaotic approach and I've normally got sounds and pictures in my
head so I kind of scratch down a soundtrack to a movie in my mind and I
spend a lot of time on my own, especially on Morning Sun. I didn't see the
light of day much and I didn't see many people when I was involved either.
It was a bit of a reclusive process but sometimes it's necessary for you to
see the truth rather than being influenced by the outside. It's not
something where you go away and consciously go, "all right, I'm going to
make this record like this." It's like a jigsaw puzzle where you lay down a
couple of parts and it becomes obvious where you're going to go with it. It
kind of unfolds before your eyes and before you know it you've created a
record or a mess (laughter). It's a chaotic approach really. I suppose the
esoteric plays a roll as well as it's my nature and it's my character and I
have to be true to myself and whatever inspires me. Its part of the whole
thing and it's part combination and chemical reaction of chords, sounds and
vocals that you can't have one without the other. As long as it conjures up
the emotions and feelings intended that's what's most important. It is a
kind of a magical process really.
KITE: They say there was the hour of Horus, the dawn of man, and now the age
of science, but as technology rears its bestial head it strips the soul of
the analog art form. Is it a killing technology leaving us all in limbo?
MCCOY: I don't feel it's very fitting for us because a lot of the
audience collects the music of THE NEPHILIM. I think they want the package,
the artowrk and the actual physical hard copy. Same for me really. I mean if
I like something I like to own it. I don't like to view it there as a lot of
zeros and ones on my computer. I think it loses something and it's like when
you go out and buy a book you want the hard copy and you want to take it
with you and own it. You don't want to download it and print it out
yourself. I think there will always be a case of people actually wanting to
buy the product.
KITE: All the false signs of stigmata had finally come to an end
and there was a deafening roar as the coiled one came into view accompanied
by Behemoth and Ziz. It wasn't Christ the Seraphim had evoked, but
McCoy.
MCCOY: Yeah, that's me on the cover. I always create me own
artwork and it's part of what I do really. Its part of the imagery and what
goes on in my mind when I'm making a record. In fact it often comes first.
They go hand in hand and I can't do one without the other.
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